Rise & Roc! Diamonds are forever ※初心者立ち入り禁止。 ※このスレに参加するにはHovの全アルバムはもちろん最低限DJ ClueとMemphis BleekとBeanie Sigelと State PropとFreewayとYoung GunzとCam'RonとThe DiplomatsとJuelz SantanaとYeがRoc-A-Fellaから 出した全アルバムを揃えてからにしてください。あと当然Roc Nationのアルバムも。 ※ウェスト・サイド、ダウン・サウスの話題は禁止。 ※黒髪美少女／美女の話題もOkayです。黒髪美少女／美女はイースト・コースト・ハードコア・ヒップ・ホップ、 マフィオーソ・ラップです。というかRoc Nationど真ん中。 ※スレ違いの話題お断り。 Life + Times http://lifeandtimes.com/ Mr. Carter - Twitter http://twitter.com/s_c_ The Official Website of Roc Nation http://rocnation.com/ ▽前スレ Jay-Z/Roc Nation Chapter 11 http://awabi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/hiphop/1329519198/
まぁPacもEastcoast生まれという事実があるけど‥‥ KaneからHovの流れならplayerでいいんじゃない Kool Moe Deeによるリリシスト分類 正統派 Rakim - Nas プレイヤー Big Daddy Kane - Jay Z キャノン KRS-One - The Notrious B.I.G.
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How much of Biggie's rhymes is gon' come out your fat lips? （お前の分厚い唇からあとどれだけビギーのライムが出てくるのか見物だぜ） これはNasがJay-Zとのdiss合戦の決定打として出したシングル"Either"の中の一節。
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Jay-Zパクリフレーズの一部 Biggie - "Hypnotize" "That's why I, squeeze first ask quesions last. That's how most of these so called gangstas pass" Jigga - "Squeeze 1st" "That's why I, squeeze first ask quesions last. That's how most of these so called gangstas pass" Biggie - "The World Is Filled" "When the Remi's in the system, ain't no tellin Will I f*ck em will I diss em, that's what these hoes yellin I'm a pimp by blood, not relation Y'all still chase on, I'll replace on, punks Drunk of Dom" Jay-Z - "Give It 2 Me" "When the Remi's in the system, ain't no tellin Will I f*ck 'em will I diss 'em, that's what they be yellin I'm a pimp by blood, not relation Y'all be chasin, I replace them, huh? Drunk off Crist" Biggie - "Who Shot Ya" "Thou shalt not f*ck with or see Poppa Feel a thosand deaths... Jay-Z - "Squeeze 1st" "thou shalt not f*ck with raw me, or he Face a thousand deaths...
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Jay-Zパクリフレーズの一部 Biggie - "Kick in The Door" "Your reign on the top was shorter than leprechauns" Jay-Z - "The Ruler's Back" "Your reign on the top was shorter than leprechauns" Biggie - "One More Chance" "isn't this great, my flight leaves at eight her flight lands at nine, my game just rewinds" Jay-Z - "Girls...Remix" "isn't this great, my flight leaves at eight her flight lands at nine, my game just rewinds" Biggie - "Unbelievable" "Get ready to die, tell God I said hi And throw down some ice, for the nicest MC" Jay-Z - "Friend or Foe 98" "Do me a favor dude, get 2 ice cubes I pass them Take that ice up, for the nicest MC"
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Jay-Zパクリフレーズの一部 Biggie - "Real Niggas Do Real Things" "On the road to riches and diamond rings Real niggaz do real things" Jay-Z - "Real Niggaz" "On the road to riches and diamond rings Real niggaz do real things" Biggie - "Who Shot Ya" "Old school new school need to learn though I burn baby burn like Disco Inferno" Jay-Z - "Who Shot Ya Freestyle" "Old school, new school need to know this I burn like Left Eye Lisa Lopez" Biggie - "One More Chance" "I don't chase em I replace em" Jay - "Is That Yo b*tch" "I don't chase em I duck em I replace em"
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Jay-Zパクリフレーズの一部 Big L - (on the 7 minute 95' freestyle with Jigga) "All I got for chicks is hard dick and bubble gum" Jay-z - "A Million and One Questions " "All I got for chicks is hard dick and bubble gum" Snoop Dogg - "What's My Name?" "From the depths of the sea, back to the block Snoop Doggy Dogg, funky as the, the, The D.O.C Went solo on that ass, but it´s still the same Long Beach is the spot where I served my cane ....What's my motherfuckin name" "He is I, and I am him, slim with the tilted brim" Jigga - "Jigga my nigga" "From the crap tables down in A.C. back on the block Jay-Z motherfucker from the, the, the Roc Went solo on that ass but it´s still the same Brooklyn be the place where I serve them thangs ....You heard the name" "He is I, and I am him Slim with the tilted brim on twenty inch rims"
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Jay-Zパクリフレーズの一部 Nas - "Verbal Intercourse" "From the womb to the tomb, presume the unpredictable Guns salute life, rapidly, that's the ritual" Jay - "Never change" "From the womb to the tomb, from now until my doom Drink army from one cup pass it around the room, That's the ritual" 2pac - "My Ambitionz Az a Rydah" "Was born rough and rugged, addressin the mad public My attitude is f*ck it, and muthafuckaz love it" Jay-z "Some People Hate" "Was born rough and rugged, addressin the mad My attitude is f*ck it, and muthafuckaz love it" 2pac - "Against All Odds" "This is payback, i knew you b*tch niggaz from way back" Jay-z - "Some People Hate" "This is payback, i knew you b*tch niggaz from way back"
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Playa Nationじゃいまいちカッコよくないなあ。
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2Pacと切り離した「Thug」で。
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Jay-Zパクリフレーズの一部 Mase - "Lookin' at me" "Why you over here looking at me, while my girl standing here" Jay-z - "2 Many Hoes" "Why you over here lookin at me, while all these girls up in here" Biggie - "Big Poppa" "I see some ladies tonight that should be having my baby.. baby." Jay-Z - "Excuse Me Miss" "I see some ladies tonight that should be rollin wit Jay-Z, Jay-Z" Biggie - "Be Happy" (R.Kelly ft. Biggie) "Think About It While The Streets You Roam It's Don P And Cristie In The Fridge When You Get Home" Jay-Z - "Best Of Both Worlds" (Jay-Z & R.Kelly) "Think About It While The Streets You Roam It's Don P And Army In The Fridge When You Get Home"
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Jay-Zパクリフレーズの一部 B.G. - "Cash money is a army" "Cash Money Is A Army Nigga, a navy nigga so if you ever try to harm me Nigga, It ain't gravy Nigga" Jay-Z - "Takeover" "Roc-A-Fella is the army, better yet the navy niggaz'll kidnap your babies, spit at your lady" Snoop Dogg - "Aint no Fun" (If the Homies Can't Get None) "Guess who's back in the mothafuckin house With a fat dick for ya mothafuckin mouth" Jigga - "f*ck All Nite" "Guess who's back in my motherfuckin house Half black, half white chick, I call her Minnie Mouse" Slick Rick - "The Ruler's Back" "In these times, atleast to me, theres alot of rappers out there tryin to sound like Ricky D" Jay-Z - "The Ruler's Back" "In these times, atleast to me, theres alot of rappers out there tryin to sound like Jay -Z"
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Jay-Zパクリフレーズの一部 Rakim - "No Competition" "Competition is none, I remain at the top like the sun" Jay-Z - "S. Carter" "Competition is none, I remain at the top like the sun" Cappadona - "Slang Editorial" "I came to the fork in the road and went straight" Jay-Z - "Renegades" "I drove by the fork in the road and went straight" Nas - "The World Is Yours" "Seude timbs on my feet makes my cypher complete" Jay-Z - "What More Can I Say" "S.dots on my feet makes my cypher complete"
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Jay-Zパクリフレーズの一部 2pac - "Against All Oddz" Payback, I knew U b*tch nggaz from way back. witnessed me strapped with Macs, knew i wouldn't play that," Jay-Z - "Some People Hate" Nigga This the Payback, I know U b*tch nggaz from way back. Niggaz wanna clown but the pound it don't play that," Biggie - "Kick In The Door" Kick In The Door waving the .44 all I heard was Poppa i dont want it no more Jay-Z - "Marcyville" ...wavin the .44 All you heard was Jigga I don't want it no more 2pac - "Me and my Girlfriend" "All I need in this life of sin, is me and my girlfriend" Jay-Z - "Bonnie and Clyde 03'" "All I need in this life of sin, is me and my girlfriend"
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Jay-Zパクリフレーズの一部 Dr. Dre - "The Watcher" Niggaz get capped up and wrapped in plastic zipped up in bags when it happens that's it" Jay-Z - "Takeover" "Get zipped up in plastic when it happens that's it" Bun B "Touched" Now once upon a time not too long ago A nigga like myself had to strong arm a hoe This is not a hoe in the sense of havin a But a havin no God Damn sense, try and push me Jay-Z "99 Problems" Now once upon a time not too long ago A nigga like myself had to strong arm a hoe This is not a hoe in the sense of havin a But a havin no God Damn sense, try and push me
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Jay-Zパクリフレーズの一部 Ice-T "99 Problems" So if you havin girl problems, I'll be there for you son Got 99 problems and a bitch ain't one - hit it... Jay-Z "99 Problems" If you havin girl problems i feel bad for you son I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one Hit me Big L "Im flyer than a piece of paper that bears my name" Jay Z "flyer than a piece of paper bearin my name"
USにおいてJay-Zは、Biggieを始めとする無数のラッパー達からライムを真似し過ぎている、とよく辛口批判されています。 Bring 'em out ! It's hard to yell when the bar-rell's in your mouth 例えばT.I.が"Bring em Out"にてJay-Zの"What More Can I Say"から上記の一節を引用していましたが、これも元はと言えばThe Notorious B.I.G.の"Rap Phonomenon"がオリジナルですね。 こうした初心者には隠された真実を暴かんと、Jay-Zが過去に猿真似した無数のフレーズの数々をオリジナルと対比しながらひたすら並べた証拠音源がネット上にアップされています。 Jay-Z - Stolen Lines "What More Can I Say"に出てくるフレーズをひっくり返し、本人がひたすら「I'm Not A Writher, I'm A Biter（俺はオリジネイターじゃない、俺は猿真似だ）」と言わされています‥‥
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ペインは好きなプロデューサーとかいるの
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>>28 Preem Swizz The Neptunes The Alchemist Just Blaze Kanye らへん。
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遅れてるな。
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Game up もう待てねー。 落ちるわ。
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見れねーぞ。
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遅刻？
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アメリカでしか見れないらしい。
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Jay-Zがこの先、歌詞の中で女性を軽視する言葉"bitch"を使わないと宣言した。 Jay-Zは以下のﾎﾟｴﾑを発表。 Before I got in the game, made a change, and got rich, I didn’t think hard about using the word bitch. I rapped, I flipped it, I sold it, I lived it now with my daughter in this world I curse those that give it. I never realized while on the fast track that I’d give riddance to the word bitch, to leave her innocence in tact. No man will degrade her, or call her name. I'm so focused on your future, the degradation has passed. I wish you wealth, health and insight. Forever young you may pass. Blue Ivy Carter, my angel. これまでは深く考えずに"bitch"という言葉を使ってきたが、娘がこの世に誕生した事でこれを一掃すると記している。 これまでいくつかの曲で使われてきた言葉。この先ﾗｲｳﾞでそれらの曲をﾊﾟﾌｫｰﾏﾝｽする時、どんな言葉に置き換えるのか話題になっている。
